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Copper Pipe Installation and Repipe
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On today's show, it's all about copper repiping. Why do you need it? Why would you want it? What's the benefit? Stayed tuned. John Eccles, Richard Saad. Welcome to the new studio. It's nice. I like that. I do. It's wonderful. We built this in a day or wait a couple of hours at night. Took two or three. I think so it did. Let's talk about advantages. Let's just get right into the meat and potatoes right into it. Yeah. Why would you want copper pipe in your house? The first thing that comes to mind is the longevity of the pipe. Copper pipe is very resilient. Last a very long time. A manufacturer specs gives it a lifespan of about 50 plus years, um, as durable structurally sound last a very, very long time. And for me, being as young and as healthy as I am, not it'll last forever.
So it's a great pipeline. We're talking about that. Yeah, you'll be dead. You know, I mean, I think that, um, what was the place that we did at the river oaks? So if you look at the oldest part of Houston, part of it's going to be, of course river oaks and we do a lot of remodeling and I'm tearing out bathrooms that have 120 year old copper piping and it looks like the day it got put in. It is amazing. It looks brand new now. It also depends on the installer. It's got to be installed properly and that's where people make a big mistake. They're looking at cost versus the installation. Now in our field, when we install a copper piping, we can definitely do some things that will degrade that pipe and create that, uh, the life of that pipe to, uh, become much less than that 50 years.
So it all depends on who you hire to put in that piping structure for you. But again, we're tearing down bath rooms in this pipes, 100, 120 years old. Uh, these homes dates to the 19 hundreds, early 19 hundreds and, and, and the piping looks brand new. And the reason why we're tearing it out is we're creating larger bathrooms are moving a bathroom. So you have to, other than that, there'd be no reason to tear it out. Who knows how long it would last. But again, you're right. Key is installation, installation. These to be proper, proper installation, you're going to get who knows how many years out of it depends on you, you gotta. I mean there's, there's tools of course to put this copper together, but, you know, are they, are they wiping the joints properly, are they de burring the pipe properly? Those are things that you're never going to know.
So it's very important that you hire a good installation company. Now I went copper and my house, half of, about three quarters of my house was already copper. The other quarter of it I couldn't get to. And uh, Harvey, uh, created to where I could get to that pipe again. I got flooded. So now my whole house is copper and that leads us to the next advantage. Why did I go with copper over something else? I don't know why this is a big biggie for you. That's a biggie for me. You have, you hit it, hit it high. So copper is one out of nine metals known the man that's um antibacterial, meaning that, uh, it does not allow bacteria to grow onto it. Like some course materials, plastic and some other things that can happen. It's antimicrobrial. Um, there's an age where, what, how do you pronounce?
I'm saying this word, the h word? Yeah. What a Houston. No hygienic, hygienic. There it is. So it's a hygienic style pipe. So it's a very health conscious decision, right? It is, yeah. When you're talking about a pipe that's going to be as healthy as it can for you. It's not gonna allow bacteria to build up in the inside and transfer it to your faucets or to the water source where you're going to be drinking bay. Then all that kind of stuff. Houston, as far as our water supply goes, when it comes to your house, we fail bacteria test all the time. Absolutely. And in the public is not aware of this. I mean, we fail I daily or more on bacteria testing in this water that gets delivered to your house. Now I can tell you copper is the only material that we use or can use that is antibacterial, so it helps to kill that bacteria.
I know you don't want me to say that, but it does. Does helps. It helps that you did say it in such a politically correct world. Now that it helps. I should say that. Right? That's an inner office coal, right? You did say you did say he helps, but very helpful. Helping me. It eliminates it, but it helps. It's a healthy. It's a healthy option though. When you're. When you're talking about choosing between the different materials, you can't say that about the other materials. The only material that we have that you can say that about. That's right. That's right, and it's meant for water supply in the nine metals that we're talking about, it is the only metal that is used for potable water supply, so you know there's not another metal that you're going to get and plastic obviously is not antibacterial. Not like not.
It's not. There's no way to test it. There's. It's just not. That's exactly right. We already touched on the durability a little bit. Very durable, very durable. Let's talk about corrosion. Doesn't corrode. It doesn't cry. I've seen a corona. What? Well, it comes down to what you said it earlier. Installation, absolutely properly installed. It's corrosion resistant, has the ability to handle high pressures, you know, um, so when you're talking about the water supply coming in, if for whatever reason your water pressure is higher than what's normal, it can handle high pressure situations, um, but the corrosion resistance big so you don't have to worry about it decay and over time or anything like that. Again, with proper installation, there are times where it's not installed properly and, um, it does begin to corrode and not hold up as well. And that is due to the installation process.
Ninety nine percent of the time, right? The two dissimilar metals attached to each other creates electrolysis, try or can create electrolysis. That's the problem with copper is these guys are clamping down wires under our pipe was something that they shouldn't, like a galvanized or they're putting two dissimilar metals together in your water supply, like a galvanized and copper. That creates electrolysis, that creates corrosion, that creates failure, right? And you will not get the 50 plus years out of it. So again, it all goes back to your installer and that's why I think on this show that we always request that the, that our, you know, our public and our customers call a licensed plumbing company and use, you know, a verified licensed technician. I mean, that's what you want and that doesn't make them good though either you've got to do your homework. Absolutely, absolutely.
A license doesn't make it good, but it just makes you qualified to say that I can do that. So it all depends on your installer. We've been working with copper, we're strictly a, we, we use mostly copper here at next plumbing. So if you guys are thinking about repiping the home, call us, you don't have to use this will still help you try. I think that leads into our next thing, which uh, is a biggie for a lot of people these days, right? I mean, um, when you're talking about today's world, we live in a greener environment, right? Everybody wants to be green and save the planet. Well, I'm copper has a very minimal impact to the environment. It's a recyclable material. It's naturally occurring, so it's a very, very limited impact when you're talking about environmental issues. So a lot of people don't know that and I'm sure if they thought about it they would.
It's pretty self explanatory I guess, but it is a lot of people like that, you know, with the green environmentally friendly. Absolutely. It's a very green product. I'll try it. So I mean that's a lot of good things about copper. I mean, you're talking what we say longevity, right? It's healthy as far as the anti microbial, anti bacterial. It won't corrode as long as it's put in. Right. Handles, high pressure, extremely durable minimum impact. It's a good choice. You know when you're in this process, right? Don't let a plumber come in and steam roll you into one thing. You need to make sure that I've given you all the information about all the different things that are out there and let you make the decision on what's best for you, your family, and what makes sense for your home. That's right. Wow. So going, going on to the next step of that is what everybody here says. What's the disadvantage of Kapa o? It's cost. Yeah. Everybody hears these days. I can't tell you how many people that I speak to. I mean it's almost on a daily basis is copper is way expensive. We can't afford it. Well, there's a huge argument of why you should afford it and there's a huge argument around it's not expensive, but you guys have all been told that it's expensive. Well, if you extrapolate 50 years on the cost of that install, what does that equate to? Pennies to the day. Maybe even not. Pennies might not even be opinion. Micro pennies. I mean is that a word? Let's use a number. Let's just say to re pipe. The home is 10 grand. I'm just throwing it out there and you're getting copper, you're getting the best material. 10 grand over 50 years, uh, less than it's less than a fraction of a penny. It's almost no. And that made him promise, counting up or counting that low. Which one? But if you think about it, do the math. It's not expensive. Right? And if you, if it's installed right, and you get a hundred years out of that pipe, um, I, I mean your, your cost is very neg. Negligible. Almost negligible. Almost couldn't say it. Um, I am in plumbing. Am I supposed to know those words?
That was good. I loved the big word of the day. I love it when you bust it out. That's right. But I'm going to argue that all day long that it's not expensive. Just extrapolate that over 50 years. Yeah. Your cost is going to be more and that's okay. It's what you're going to get at the end. No, I don't have 50 years left, but you know, they say that's a disadvantage does I'm with you. I'd argue that you say cost is a disadvantage. It is more upfront, but you're getting some different things for it. The longevity, antimycobacterial others advantages we talked about going into that cost and so, um, again, we're going to give you the Information gonna let you make the decision what's best for you and your family. What's another disadvantage? Now? Last one, a copper. We've only got two. Yeah, we hear about costs. The other one is so subject to bursting would say, and we've had some freezes, but you know what fixes that is insulation.
If that pipe is insulated properly and it doesn't freeze, the bursting is, is nonexistent, right? But let's point out its potential to burst, right? So water always freezes the same degrees no matter what kind of pipe you have scraped. So it has to freeze. And if everything's done right, it's going to minimize the potential to burst. Not saying that if it does freeze it, it's kind of burst. It's just because it's such a rigid pipe. It does have a greater potential versus some of the plastics that are out there to burst. You guys go back to your chemistry days and what junior high school. Probably when when water freezes, it expands, right? So that expansion creates the bursting of the pipe truck or could create the bursting of the pipe. So you guys need to be aware of, as long as you insulate that pipe properly, that should never happen to you.
So prior to a freeze, you want to make sure that your installation installation is good and it's insulated where it needs to be and that's going to actually make that disadvantage disappear. And I'm sure if I can foretell the future at all, I'm pretty sure that as we get closer to their winter, we'll probably do a whole show over freezing temperatures, what to do and how to take care of it. So stay tuned for that one. That'll be happening in November. Yeah, that's right. So thank you guys for listening, paying attention. Any questions as usual, call the office. John's in, Richard Zen. You can always call us and ask questions. If you hear something from another company that you don't think is accurate, you don't think is right, call us up and verify. So we're happy to help whether you use us or not. Till next week you guys take care.